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Super Toker
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Why the Ultimate User Laws is not well known?

There is no incentive for experts to tell you the truth about ultimate user law. The prison industrial complex, drug rehab companies in prison, attorneys, police department get grant money, etc. are profiting for not letting the public know about ultimate user. The ultimate user laws have been here a long time and very few people know it exist. If you go to prison, the law books got the ultimate user statutes omitted because they don't want prisoners to challenge their conviction. Many police officers don't know about ultimate user laws. They know about the possession statutes and apply them to people possessing control substance. The possession statutes are for people who are not authorized by law to possess control substances. Ultimate user laws authorize a person to possess any control substance for their personal use. These laws are found in many states and on the federal level. It is time to wake up to these lies that drugs are illegal.

Federal Laws

“(27) The term ‘‘ultimate user’’ means a person who has lawfully obtained, and who possesses, a controlled substance for his own use or for the use of a member of his household or for an animal owned by him or by a member of his household.” 21 USC § 802. Definitions
(c) Exceptions
The following persons shall not be required to register and may lawfully possess any controlled substance or list I chemical under this subchapter: …………..
(3) An ultimate user who possesses such substance for a purpose specified in section 802(25) 1 of this title. -21 USC § 821

"§ 1983. Civil action for deprivation of rights
Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia." -42 USC 1983

“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
-14th amendment of the US Constitution

The Federal Ultimate User Privilege and Conspiracy Theory

A sovereign citizen explains to me about the ultimate user privilege. He believe that the Bar association and the attorneys took over United States during reconstruction of the civil war. The bar association members were coming from England to take over United States because the Satanic banking families want to control US and merge it with the new world order. After Abraham Lincoln assassination, the 14th amendment was push through Congress and ratified by force to turn the former slaves and existing state citizens to become a corporate slave of the United States. The US corporation can grant certain privileges to their subjects; the 14th amendment corporate slaves. Before the 14th amendment, Congress cannot intact the civil rights pass the D.C. and the US territories because the 10th amendment was a roadblock. After the 14th amendment was ratified, Congress can extend the civil rights to their subjects by bypassing the 10th amendment. The Corporate US can grant privileges and immunities to the 14th amendment subject. He said the word “of” means belonging or ownership. The 14th amendment citizens are owned by the corporate United States.

One of the privileges that the 14th amendment subjects have is the ultimate user. The “Ultimate User” is a privilege granted by congress to the 14th amendment citizen and can only be removed by due process of law

Ultimate User Privilege and the 5th Amendment

If a police officer arrests you and asks you where you obtain the control substance, your best response is to STATE YOU ARE AN ULTIMATE USER AND ASSERT YOUR 5TH AMENDMENT RIGHT WHEN ASKED WHERE YOU OBTAINED THE CONTROL SUBSTANCEs. The sovereign citizen read the Federal Control Substance Act and did not find where the buyer of control substance is criminality liable. The seller is liable for selling without a license and not following correct procedure.
If you found federal statutes that said the buyer is liable, please reply and cite me the statutes.

In court the prosecutor can remove the federal privilege of ultimate user by proving that you obtain it unlawfully. If they cannot submit proof, the federal privilege of ultimate user stands.

If they continue the court action, you can sue the prosecutor and other state actors for depriving your right to be an ultimate user.

Sovereign Citizens Don’t Have Federal Ultimate User Privilege

The sovereign citizen doesn’t have Federal Ultimate User Privilege because they are not a 14th amendment citizen. They have the right to ultimate user under state laws. Only 14th amendment corporate slaves have the right to use the federal ultimate user privilege. Here is an example of states’ ultimate user law.
Wisconsin Statutes
“Definitions. As used in this chapter:
"Ultimate user" means an individual who lawfully possesses a controlled substance for that individual's own use or for the use of a member of that individual's household or for administering to an animal owned by that individual or by a member of that individual's household. “ –Wisconsin Statutes 961.01

“Possession authorization.
(2) The following persons need not be registered under federal law to lawfully possess controlled substances in this state:
(c) An ultimate user or a person in possession of any controlled substance pursuant to a lawful order of a practitioner or in lawful possession of a schedule V substance. “ -Wisconsin Statutes 961.32 

1. “OR” doesn’t mean “AND.” The Ultimate User is not the one with the prescription.
2. Nowhere I found in Wisconsin Statutes that prohibit ultimate user from possessing schedule I substance.
If you found in Wisconsin Statutes where Ultimate User is prohibited from possessing schedule I substance, then let me know.

Disclaimer: Not legal advice. This is a legal study guide. I assert my First amendment right to discuss the law. If attorneys are the only ones that can interpret the law and understand it’s meaning, they are the only one responsible and not the people. If the people are responsible for the law, then the people must be the ones who study and understand it. If you want more information, please visit my website at
Disclaimer: Not legal advice. This is a legal study guide. I assert my First amendment right to discuss the law. If attorneys are the only ones that can interpret the law and understand it’s meaning, they are the only one responsible and not the people. If the people are responsible for the law, then the people must be the ones who study and understand it. If you want more information, please visit my website at:
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Super Toker
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The laws on victimless crimes only extend to commercial activities. In this message posting, two victimless crimes will be analyze; prostitution and control substance possession. The underline principle is commerce. Without commerce, the courts don’t have authority over victimless activities.

With prostitution, the courts only have jurisdiction over commercial sexual activities. They don’t have jurisdiction over noncommercial sexual activities between consenting adults in private due to the court ruling Lawrence v Texas and the Model Penal Code (MPC). The sugar citizen’s website explains how the prosecutors are bond to the MPC.

The NY Courts has ruled mistress-lovers relationship (Sugar daddy and sugar baby) is noncommercial; Cherry v. Koch, 129 Misc. 2d 346, 491 N.Y.S.2d 934 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1985). Sugar daddy and sugar baby engaging in prostitution in private may be illegal under state law but the courts don’t have jurisdiction over such sexual activities. The reason is that the sexual activity between sugar baby and sugar daddy is noncommercial.

With drug possession, there are noncommercial loopholes in federal and state statutes called the ultimate user laws. These laws allow someone to possess any control substance for their own use, for their family, or their animal. The ultimate user law authorizes a person to noncommercial possession of control substances. The drug laws were written only to criminalize commercial control substance activities without a license. The courts don’t have jurisdiction over noncommercial drug possession because the control substance act only criminalizes the commercial activities. If there is no commercial drug activities, the court have no authority over drug possession.

The legal system is operating under the presumption of commerce for drugs and prostitution. If the defendant doesn’t rebut the commerce, they are admitting to commerce.
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